tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1572836115424987671.post5202926233413723592..comments2023-09-27T16:38:49.018+01:00Comments on South Wales Bryophytes: PorthkerryBarry Stewarthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12080358305675651314noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1572836115424987671.post-84831726611247905462015-02-24T21:46:14.324+00:002015-02-24T21:46:14.324+00:00I too had a wonder along the Cold Knap - Porthkerr...I too had a wonder along the Cold Knap - Porthkerry Section on Sunday (22.1.15). You are right the Bull Cliff is extremely dangerous - I saw at least 5 small rock falls and the slumped material was actively moving - from a geologists point of view this is not a cliff to climb ! <br /><br />Anyhow back to the moss, I couldn't see Southbya but I did locate two areas of tufa with moss (ID tbc) and small algae which could be worth a more experienced eye. <br /><br />1) Cliff face tufa about 20m in length ST0914666723<br /><br />2) Tufa spring in small wooded area just of the very end of the car park where the fence has been put in place by the council, follow the water into the bush and about 10m up the slope ST0952666719<br /><br />Samples off to George for ID (sorry George) but a more trained eye may find these two locations worth a look. <br /><br />Gareth Farrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07103761982130970613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1572836115424987671.post-27567192815502964272015-01-19T21:23:22.292+00:002015-01-19T21:23:22.292+00:00It sounds like you parked at The Knap, so the site...It sounds like you parked at The Knap, so the site is presumably Bull Cliff where it doesn't seem to have been recorded previously. It would be a different tetrad to the 1950 Porthkerry record.<br /><br />I haven't checked that end of the cliff...will endeavour to do so next time I'm down that way. GMThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08759152282751126808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1572836115424987671.post-57988745828252461722015-01-19T20:33:51.768+00:002015-01-19T20:33:51.768+00:00p.s. I have also saw it at East Aberthaw, must be ...p.s. I have also saw it at East Aberthaw, must be over 10 years ago - seem to recall that it wasn't too difficult to find - I was botanising with Julian woodman at time, so perhaps that was colony he showed you?<br /><br /> GSMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13495904672714867028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1572836115424987671.post-68299882902562418282015-01-19T20:28:14.679+00:002015-01-19T20:28:14.679+00:00I saw Southbya at Portkerry a few years ago (5 or...I saw Southbya at Portkerry a few years ago (5 or 6 or perhaps even a couple more) - I can't remember much about it now apart from fact that it was on a dripping bit of cliff and that we walked west from car parking area on sea front - main thing that excited me at time was that I thought I had recorded it for a new 10km, but realised later that I was just to west of 10km boundary. GSMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13495904672714867028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1572836115424987671.post-18435661844693258372015-01-19T10:04:31.438+00:002015-01-19T10:04:31.438+00:00Thanks Barry, I'd somehow missed the Porthkerr...Thanks Barry, I'd somehow missed the Porthkerry record with the 6-fig grid ref in the database. Presumably all the Porthkerry records relate to that site and not Bull Cliff, though it could be there as most of the cliff is impossible to access without specialist equipment.<br /><br />Yes, the recent major cliff collapse at the Porthkerry site probably means it's not worth checking that one as a priority. I'll try and get down to the Font-y-gary site at some point...GMThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08759152282751126808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1572836115424987671.post-74233669910122271022015-01-19T09:50:41.477+00:002015-01-19T09:50:41.477+00:00This is a species we need to understand better giv...This is a species we need to understand better given its status. I'll see if Julian can provide me with any additional records and/or site details, but other than the last record below, which is from the site shown to me by Julian where there's a healthy colony, I have no idea what the status is at the other sites. The aerials show there has been a major cliff collapse at the 6-fig Porthkerry site, so that may have gone? The 'Wet Cliffs, Font-y-gary' site looks easy to access and would be worth a visit if anyone is down that way. The hectad records aren't very helpful, but it seems likely these relate to one of the three 6-figure sites listed. I'm not aware of any records from Bull Cliff.<br /><br />Wet Cliffs, Font-y-gary ST051658 (1949)<br />Porthkerry ST078661 (1950)<br />Porthkerry ST06 (30-May-50)<br />East Aberthaw ST06 (01-Sep-60)<br />near East Aberthaw ST06 (11-Mar-61)<br />Aberthaw-Fontygary ST0565 (05-Apr-63)<br />East Aberthaw ST046659 (28-Sep-11)<br />Barry Stewarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12080358305675651314noreply@blogger.com